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boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it m do to the economy. time's running short and a standoff between long shoreman union workers and companies could cripple the nation. unless they reach a dea they plan to strike this weekend. we reached out but haven't heard back yet. steve moore is here with us. if th strike happens, some estimates say $1 billion per day hit to the economy. >> yeah, the's no question. if you -- you used the right word, cripple the economy. the ports in this country are the backbone of our trade, both export and imports and i've read estimates of $100 billion or more comes in and out. so it cook deva
boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? >> forget the fiscal cliff. how about a container cliff and what it m do to the economy....
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first of all, boehner wasn't elected peeker. and he's also implying that the president doesn't have a mandate. it's the president and the democrats who won the election. the president won by 5 million votes. democrats expanded their majority in the senate and the house democrats earned 1.4 34i8on votes than the gop candidates. boehner is e let the record reflect elected by the republican caucus. this is what makes me not know what they'll do. >> when i said in the top of the show, who's pulling thestri ini are the big donors. these people don't care if we go over the fiscal deadline. that's why they're so cavalier about it. they are trying to redistribute this country's wealth along the lines of more fuel for the wealthy. i think we've got to resist this because what they're trying to do is really make it so that the average american worker is cost competitive with the average chinese worker. we can't have that. we've got to have a society that really reflects the true wealth of the whole nation, which working class people produ
first of all, boehner wasn't elected peeker. and he's also implying that the president doesn't have a mandate. it's the president and the democrats who won the election. the president won by 5 million votes. democrats expanded their majority in the senate and the house democrats earned 1.4 34i8on votes than the gop candidates. boehner is e let the record reflect elected by the republican caucus. this is what makes me not know what they'll do. >> when i said in the top of the show, who's...
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john boehner, the republican leadership, those who are leaving the party, there has been no talk there will beno tax hikes. unwilling and unable perhaps, for what will ensue of the fiscal cliff. but the fact is that we are looking at a real prospect that the republicans will be held responsible and must plan be actually hashe effect of shifting some of the responbility to the president read what you thinkre the odds? >> i think he will be held responsible for the economy in 2013 and 2014. you cannot blame george w. bush anymore. they conol the senate. it is their economy for sure. so i think that you're going to sea real problem in 2013 and 2014, but i do think it's obama's economy now. the republicans passed the tax cuts for one group, let's say all the wy through, not the very top group, , i don't know where that negotiation is going to come out, but if they do that, i think that they will be held blameless for the economy. lou: as we wrap up here, i would like to ask you a question this way. because i said last year that i felt strongly at the beginning of the campaign. the democrat
john boehner, the republican leadership, those who are leaving the party, there has been no talk there will beno tax hikes. unwilling and unable perhaps, for what will ensue of the fiscal cliff. but the fact is that we are looking at a real prospect that the republicans will be held responsible and must plan be actually hashe effect of shifting some of the responbility to the president read what you thinkre the odds? >> i think he will be held responsible for the economy in 2013 and 2014....
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. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress. we are going to hit the debt ceiling. it never ends. >> happy new year's america. ♪ 29 and a half hours that is how long congress will have to avoid going over the fiscal curve on sunday night. >> if we go over the cliff, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today with the first of the year, aren't here. i can't mamg they are out wherever they r and we are here trying to get something done. >> president obama called leaders last night and tomorrow afternoon we will meet with the speaker and mix mcconnel and harry reid to see if they can avoid going o
. >> how is john boehner going to get the votes. he couldn't get the votes for his plan b. >> a week ago we were closer than we have been before. >> do they presume the voters are that dumb? >> they passed it. >> they did it noing that they are unable to make deals on anything. >> how about complete chaos? >> there ought to be a new rule in congress. >> you cannot create anymore artificial crisis. >> tim geithner wrote a letter to congress....
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boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask youtical fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ultimately th
boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >>...
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at some point, john boehner goes there. i don't know if that's going to be on december 31st or the first week of january. if it's not the first week of january, i think it would be fairly soon after that, because again, the reason why smart people like tom cole and bob corker and john cornen have said we ought to give on the tax cuts of people under 250,000 is they know that's where the thing is going to end up unless they cut some deal and bring their caucus along on some higher threshold. the president offered 400,000. they could get that. they could probably get 500,000. >> go ahead, bob. >> i was going to say now is the time when we really find out whether republican leadership is an oxymoron. we not only have to rely on john boehner having enough leadership and guts and gumption to put something on the floor his republicans are not going to vote for, but we also have to agree to go through with a bill before the senate that is basically what the president wants so it can put pressure on the republicans and the house. >
at some point, john boehner goes there. i don't know if that's going to be on december 31st or the first week of january. if it's not the first week of january, i think it would be fairly soon after that, because again, the reason why smart people like tom cole and bob corker and john cornen have said we ought to give on the tax cuts of people under 250,000 is they know that's where the thing is going to end up unless they cut some deal and bring their caucus along on some higher threshold. the...
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can the president and john boehner finally end this mess over the nation's debt? the clock is ticking. dennis: here's a look at today's s&p winners. dennis: the dow below 15,000 one cliff years. fireworks on the floor of the senate. harry reid with choice words for the house speaker. >> the american people don't understand the house of representatives is operating without a house of representatives. it has been operated with the dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. dennis: when do we hear from john boehner? more importantly when the deal gets done? more on the winter storm that wrecked the holidays for many americans, last stop in the northeast, live team coverage and no secrets here, popular show downtown at the premiere's next month and you can find out what happens on line. are you going to peak? cheryl: don't tell me. dennis: who cares? cheryl: it is 30 past the hour, stocks >> caller: minutes and the market is down 100 points and down below 13,000. nicole: i don't watch anything bes
can the president and john boehner finally end this mess over the nation's debt? the clock is ticking. dennis: here's a look at today's s&p winners. dennis: the dow below 15,000 one cliff years. fireworks on the floor of the senate. harry reid with choice words for the house speaker. >> the american people don't understand the house of representatives is operating without a house of representatives. it has been operated with the dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast...
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plan b from boehner. now plan c. unemployment extended for 2 million people and finally, as you just talked about, a small amount of spending cuts, enough to shut off the sequester. but not major kits. not major changes to medicare. that would be kicking the can down the road to next year. they're running out of time. final point is that a source familiar with the meeting on the white house side tells us that the president in this meeting is telling lawmakers if you don't have a counter to the three points i just laid out, bring my proposal up as the final plan for an up or down vote. a games manship from the president. we're running out of time so you have to vote on something. number two, if house republicans vote the president's plan down and we go off the cliff the president would blame republicans and say i had a plan, the republicans couldn't pass it. there's a blame game here. >> that's why he would do it. he can say i came up with a plan, you voted it down. it's not my fault. he can come back in january and f
plan b from boehner. now plan c. unemployment extended for 2 million people and finally, as you just talked about, a small amount of spending cuts, enough to shut off the sequester. but not major kits. not major changes to medicare. that would be kicking the can down the road to next year. they're running out of time. final point is that a source familiar with the meeting on the white house side tells us that the president in this meeting is telling lawmakers if you don't have a counter to the...
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and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the table with numerous proposals. he isn't picking a fight. he's fighting for the american people. we all want a deal. but we will not give up our core principles. the president ran on families and has the american people on his side. that's why speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are cracking up with the clock ticking. joining me now is form er pennsylvania governor ed rendell. jerry bernstein, senior fellow at the center and jonathan, opinion writer for "the washington post" and an msnbc kriblt tor. contributor. thank you all for coming on the show. governor
and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the...
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he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here in the house and it makes it very difficult to negotiate. the president has been talking with the speaker. he made an offer. it was essentially rejected by the speaker. he then comes up with another alternative. it is turned down by the conference that he is supposed to lead. i think all of that has made this a more difficult proposition. i think the president, he has offered cuts in spending essentially it has been very difficult to deal with this republican majority now in the house. and what i am hopeful of in this very, very critical last 48 hours is that the senate will act, they will find c
he comes in here and he will talk with boehner. he won't talk with the other republicans. he hasn't built the trust. >> so has the president and the democrats, do you think they have done enough to build trust on the other side? >> i think so. i have been here 30 years now. this republican conference in the house is more hard edged, more hard to bid than has been true almost all the time i have been here. there has been in a sense a radicalization in the republican conference here...
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boehner can agree to. so therefore, they've said they would not go for a million dollars tax cut on all of those making a million dollars. so i mean, i don't know where we go from here. and i think boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. and he's basically said that. even his own members of his party, the gentleman from ohio said these tea party guys have come in and quote messed up the place. >> you said something very important there are there. you couldn't get it through -- i say you i mean the house, speaker boehner, couldn't get it through at a million dollars. it's not going to come over from the senate at a million dollars. that cutoff will be 400,000 maybe, 5, whatever you want to say it will be lowser than 1 million. so whenever it comes over what gives you confidence if it couldn't get done at 1 million it's going to get there? in essence how can you say you have any confidence we are not about to go off the cliff in some way form or fashi
boehner can agree to. so therefore, they've said they would not go for a million dollars tax cut on all of those making a million dollars. so i mean, i don't know where we go from here. and i think boehner, who's a good guy who wants to make a deal, he really wants to make a deal, but he can't. and he's basically said that. even his own members of his party, the gentleman from ohio said these tea party guys have come in and quote messed up the place. >> you said something very important...
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boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there. they weren't elected to play games like this. they were elected to govern. this is frustrating. you know why? then we have the debt ceiling coming up. what excuse will they come up? >> they will not cut spending. harry reid, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, they are not going to cut spending. >> sean: how about the republicans? >> i hope the next time the republicans don't get rolled like they will be rolled the next 48 hours. >> sean: in one sense, joe, i got to give your president a lot of credit. he went out there, went out campaigning. he d
boehner gets what he wants. the tea party gets what they want which is a no vote. >> sean: you are not happy about it are you? >> i'm not happy at all. the deal we will be hurt, the american people, your children, my grandchildren they are the ones that will pay for this with the is sequestration for their standard of living for the next 20 years and we can't act like this is a victory when it is a defeat. >> sean: if they are playing washington games why are they even there....
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speaker boehner is at a weak point. keep in mind all day when they were about to take the vote, they were telling us they had the votes, when in fact they did not have the votes. for a speaker to bring forward a bill and not have the votes is a travesty. and then -- then what they were voting on, that is to extend the tax cuts up to the people making a million dollars, that was not -- i mean, that is not the best proposal. they wouldn't agree to that. they want not one dime of new taxes to go to folks who are making all of this money. we have a situation right now where the speaker's been weakened, and he basically threw up his hands and said to the president, look, there's nothing i can do. >> right. >> so i want you to deal with harry reid, possibly senator mcconnell and you all come up with a deal. and, you know, in a way, that's kind of insulting to us in -- on the democratic side in the house. >> sure. >> we all represent 700,000 people, the last thing we want is our speaker throwing up his hands, not allowing us t
speaker boehner is at a weak point. keep in mind all day when they were about to take the vote, they were telling us they had the votes, when in fact they did not have the votes. for a speaker to bring forward a bill and not have the votes is a travesty. and then -- then what they were voting on, that is to extend the tax cuts up to the people making a million dollars, that was not -- i mean, that is not the best proposal. they wouldn't agree to that. they want not one dime of new taxes to go...
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nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is john boehner's move to reconvene the house a face-saving political move or a genuine effort to reach a deal? text a for political. text b for genuine effort. to 622639. or go to our blog at.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is legendary congressman charlie rangel of new york. congressman, welcome to the show. >> thank you, doctor. >> speaker boehner is finally reconvening the house. but is this just so much posturing? is there anything substan
nada for boehner. on the debt limit president obama proposed a structure similar to what republican leader mitch mcconnell proposed last year. boehner wants to hold the nation's full faith and credit hostage once again to attain even more spending cuts. president obama even threw in an added incentive for republicans, by agreeing to a change in the way social security increases are calculated. no such olive branch was ever extended by republicans. get your cell phones out. i want to know what...
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boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hear you over there. i believe a proposal can pass both houses bipartisan majority. as long as they let it come to a vote. if members of the house or senate want to vote no, they can. >> i would really like to know who he is shushin
boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge...
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and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of agriculture tom vilsack. $7 milk? this is known as the dairy cliff, right? >> yes, it is. we've been so focused on other kinds of cliffs, but, in fact, because there is no farm bill, they revert back to some laws that were enacted in the 1940s. it would cause -- because milk won't be, if you will, propped up, it would cause milk prices too almost double, at least according to the agriculture secretary. they're working on a fix, something like that which hits consumers so hard. they'll notice that immediately is likely to be something that congress does do something about. my guess is they will just extend
and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of...
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you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will punish republicans if they cut entitlements. they will punish democrats if they cut entitlements. so what you saw today was the president shifting attention from debt reduction to tax cuts, which is the easy thing. i think the problem is centrally in country, and the politicians look like idiots because they are responding to horrible incentives. >> it's interesting -- >> shambolic, that's a great word. >> what does it mean exactly? >> it's british. >> ok. >> i thought i'd let it go the first time. i didn't know what it meant. tom, you interviewed the c
you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will...
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the leader, speaker boehner. some of us went to public school, but i still learned that there is a senate involved in all of this. [laughter] for the last three years no one has been talking by the united states senate. gerri: it's like they're under some witness protection program. they don't do a budget. they don't write a budget, they don't vote on the budget. the republins took them into putting obama's budget out and then they voted against it. they haven't put together a budget because they cannot reelect the democrat majority of the senate in 2024. if everyone of those senators had actually stake out a position as being in favor of obama and his taxes and spending. gerri: i don't understand why people aren't marching on the hill. i really don't. this is what we hired them for, to iron out these differences, and no one is doing the job. let's take a look at the numbers for folks that are married. if you make $50,000 per year, you'll pay an additional $2000 in taxes. if you pay $100,000, an additional $446 i
the leader, speaker boehner. some of us went to public school, but i still learned that there is a senate involved in all of this. [laughter] for the last three years no one has been talking by the united states senate. gerri: it's like they're under some witness protection program. they don't do a budget. they don't write a budget, they don't vote on the budget. the republins took them into putting obama's budget out and then they voted against it. they haven't put together a budget because...
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he really laid the blame at boehner's lap. talked about the fact that he was surprised that the house isn't even in session, which is true, but let's get real. the senate came back into session this morning. most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is
he really laid the blame at boehner's lap. talked about the fact that he was surprised that the house isn't even in session, which is true, but let's get real. the senate came back into session this morning. most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen...
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, accusing him of running a dictatorship in the house. >> speaker boehner is not willing to negotiate. we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, said it's reid who hasn't reached out for weeks. >> the phone never rang. and so now here we are, five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: but talking about what? so far, reid has not introduced the scaled-down bill he was reportedly working on over the christmas holiday. sources say that bill would extend the bush-era tax cuts for americans making less than $250,000 a year. with the clock ticking, reid pointed a finger at the house of representatives, which still hasn't returned to washington. >> i can't imagine their consciences. they're out wherever they are around the country, and we're here trying to get something done. >> reporter: from his home in ohio, speaker boehner called on the house to come back this sunday, december 30. that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payro
, accusing him of running a dictatorship in the house. >> speaker boehner is not willing to negotiate. we have not heard a word from leader mcconnell. nothing is happening. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, said it's reid who hasn't reached out for weeks. >> the phone never rang. and so now here we are, five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: but talking about what? so far, reid has not introduced the...
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david: one thing that was just leaked to us, house speaker boehner is not going to the capitol. again they will have, they will meeting tomorrow. they may even meet sunday or even on new's year day, seems like things are wrapped up as far as john boehner is concernee. rich edson, thanks very much. shibani? shibani: goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein one of the ceo's set to speak with the president in an hour's time on latest details on the fiscal cliff talks. the financial sector on track for its biggest gain in nine years. what remains ahead for financials and what is at stake stake for the industry with the fiscal cliff looming? let's ask marty mosby, guggenheim bank analyst. let's talk about first, marty, we hear lloyd blankfein will be on phone to talk to president obama trying to garner his support, the president out of these ceos, but give us a sense what the banks are looking for out of any sort of negotiation on capitol hill as we proceed towards the cliff? >> well, the first thing that the banks would like to see is some, you know, at least some certainty and stability a
david: one thing that was just leaked to us, house speaker boehner is not going to the capitol. again they will have, they will meeting tomorrow. they may even meet sunday or even on new's year day, seems like things are wrapped up as far as john boehner is concernee. rich edson, thanks very much. shibani? shibani: goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein one of the ceo's set to speak with the president in an hour's time on latest details on the fiscal cliff talks. the financial sector on track for...
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dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn international anchor jim clancy is with me now. jim, this is such a hyper-focused american problem and yet it's really a problem for the whole world. >> it definitely is. if mitch mcconnell is looking for a dance partner. the united states is the dance partner for the entire world. the markets hate uncertainty what they hate even more is steering abject failure square in the face. those markets are going to open up in four or five hours' time we should see some limited reaction in asia. but perhaps not yet. it's still uncertain what is going to happen here. the
dy call john boehner the top elected democrat in the country. he's the top-elected republican in the country. jessica, thank you for that reporting. we'll be back to you in a few moments. in a few hours, in just a few hours, trading will open in some parts of the world for the final time this year. here's the problem -- they're going to be reacting to what's going on in washington. people around the globe are going to be watching what is happening in the united states with a wary eye, cnn...
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i feel sorry for john boehner. the reality is he's leading a house which is actually looking to not the 53% of americans that want do not want to see the yes go around the fiscal curve which is what the polls are showing but that's a national poll. the reality is, they're going back to districts where they are actually, you know, frankly, reporting to a very small percentage of the american public. and so we're not -- that's why the sonation is different in the senate and the house and that's really the problem that john boehner has. >> we are up against a very hard deadline here. i want to bring in the co-chair of the house progressive caucus. democratic congressman, keith ellis. right after this. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't roc
i feel sorry for john boehner. the reality is he's leading a house which is actually looking to not the 53% of americans that want do not want to see the yes go around the fiscal curve which is what the polls are showing but that's a national poll. the reality is, they're going back to districts where they are actually, you know, frankly, reporting to a very small percentage of the american public. and so we're not -- that's why the sonation is different in the senate and the house and that's...
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john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network joins us to explain. what's going on? >> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no lo
john boehner will come back at any time. his office told us it would be sometime after christmas. so he could be back as soon as today. the upper chamber in commerce is coming back tomorrow to pick up where they left off on the important domestic surveillance bisa. they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two....
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what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be threatened, who ends up trying to run against him, you just don't know. about the likelihood of john boehner bringing legislation that is supported mostly by democrats and a handful of republicans will bring him some trouble. that's a dynamic to watch. >> mark murray, senior political editor, thanks to you, sir. for more on what could happen as the fiscal cliff counts down. i want bring in the senior congressional reporter in politico. it's clear from what was said yesterday, that he believes that the senate leaders can put together a deal. take a listen. >> i just had a good and constructi
what does john boehner do if mitch mcconnell and harry reed come to an agreement? >> that is the question if something is done on the senate side, craig, there's been the talk about house republicans as in any majority, you end up bringing the majority of the legislation that is support bid the majority, and if john boehner brings something to the floor that doesn't have the support of the majority of the house republicans, there could be some type of -- his speakership could be...
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boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we already have a couple of deals on the table, it is your turn, senate. >> that is where the ball is going now. speaker and the majority leader eric cantor are leaving out is all i is go to the senate because the speaker could be ate the job done last thursday night with plan b. e plan a is essentially the big deal, fortran dollars debt plan speaking a short time ago to a white house official who says they still believe th they move halfway towards republicans starting out only one interest tax in $250,000 above. they have moved that go
boehner has to say what is my plan b.?ced a planet close embrace, what happens is john boehner cannot get enough of his to get on board to have the votes and close helo was actually putting the votes against her own plan amongde democrats. o amongde democrats. o well for pelosi. it is dysfunctional, both parties are really not covering themselves, and here we stand. eric: the president in washington tonight. got some breaking news maybe can cover for us from the speaker and the office said we...
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now, speaker boehner has not yet called the house back into session. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim geithner told congressional leaders today that the nation has almost reached its borrowing limit. the debate over whether to increase that limit is yet another complicating factor in these already very difficult negotiations. natalie? >> kristen welker in honolulu, thank you. >>> we have an update on the health of president george h.w. bush in the hospital in houston. tonight nbc news has learned that his stubborn fever has gotten worse. he's in the intensive care unit, and doctors have him on a liquid-only diet. the former president, who is 88 years old has been hospitalized with bronchitis since just after thanksgiving. >>> when "nightly news" continues on this wednesday evening, two firefighters who survived after being lured into a deadly trap speak out for the first time. >>> and later, a fashion trend you may have missed. why you might want to look into the eyes of those mannequins. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i
now, speaker boehner has not yet called the house back into session. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim geithner told congressional leaders today that the nation has almost reached its borrowing limit. the debate over whether to increase that limit is yet another complicating factor in these already very difficult negotiations. natalie? >> kristen welker in honolulu, thank you. >>> we have an update on the health of president george h.w. bush in the hospital in houston. tonight...
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but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that they passed. let me repeat. we can't not pay bills that we've already incured. >> sounds like he's pretty strong and stern on that. what dooungs, governor? >> he is and he ought to be. the last time, it was an international disgrace, not just a national disgrace, but an international disgrace. we shouldn't play politics with that. we owe this money. we've got to pay it. we've got o to have the funds to pay it. i think the sequester comes up in two months, probably a week or two before the debt ceiling. we're going to have to have some resolution of the broad
but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that...
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john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in congress coming in that are democrats. the president doesn't have to give on that $250,000 top. where do you stand on this? do you think the president does or should compromise up to -- particularly on the tax issue? >> you can't be a democrat and ask republicans to compromise if you don't want to give up something. i think the president clearly understood that. so when he laid the $250,000 out, he gave himself some room because, again, you saw speaker boehner's proposal, it dealt with 1 million. look, you have to compromise. democrats can't say, hey, we have more
john boehner, the speaker of the house, has also been seen leaving. so what we want to do is find out what is going on here. obviously we have our jessica yellin there and we will talk to her a little later about what she has learned. now, the fiscal cliff and these last-ditch talks is the only game in town. joining me for today's strategy session is roland martin and cnn contributor erick erickson, editor-in-chief of. they are saying, hey, we don't have to compromise. we have more people in...
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do you think that what the president's going to send is something that john boehner can sell to his caucus? >> it needs to be. look there has to be more savings. what the president has talked about is more revenue but the concern is, that if the revenue goes to more spending you haven't solved the deficit and the debt. the real secret to getting this thing working is getting economic growth that generates revenue rather than higher taxes. those are elements that we need to get a deal that works and that's why we think there's chance here if the president will come back with some of those savings in his proposal. adam: but here's, we had an economist on yesterday who has no skin in this game politically which gives her credibility to what she had to say. she said the most dangerous thing we could do to the economic recovery is raise taxes. tte president clearly will not give on that point. he is going to raise taxes. if she's accurate, that the worst thing we could be doing right now. why would republicans give in to that, even if it's on the top 2%? >> what republicans want to do is close
do you think that what the president's going to send is something that john boehner can sell to his caucus? >> it needs to be. look there has to be more savings. what the president has talked about is more revenue but the concern is, that if the revenue goes to more spending you haven't solved the deficit and the debt. the real secret to getting this thing working is getting economic growth that generates revenue rather than higher taxes. those are elements that we need to get a deal that...
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speaker john boehner's congress is about to take the prize for inaction. this is not a bipartisan problem. as stated by both liberal and conservative analysts, "we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional in our past writings. we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the republican party." let's not forget that this was also the year that senator mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill, an act that drew the utter consternation of senator dick durbin. >> so this may be a moment in senate history, when a senator made a proposal, and when given an opportunity for a vote on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we've now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we've never seen before. i'm going to ask the parliamentaran to really look into this. i don't think this has ever happened before. >> that's not the kind of history you're proud of
speaker john boehner's congress is about to take the prize for inaction. this is not a bipartisan problem. as stated by both liberal and conservative analysts, "we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional in our past writings. we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the republican...
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will john boehner's path to the speakership be smooth? we'll discuss that everybody on the "morning joe" team when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cool we are lewis. do you know lewis? >> oh, god. are you letting him do that? >> there is a parent who teaches a child a harsh lesson about ebay accounts and credit cards. i have no idea what that means. all right. when we come back, the transition very smooth as always between "way too early" and "morning joe" will commence and continue. l matters? maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. get started at legalzoom.com today. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get inform
will john boehner's path to the speakership be smooth? we'll discuss that everybody on the "morning joe" team when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cool we are lewis. do you know lewis? >> oh, god. are you letting him do that? >> there is a parent who teaches a child a harsh lesson about ebay accounts and credit cards. i have no idea what that means. all right. when we come back, the transition very smooth as always between "way too...
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boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis sympto. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benets
boehner was offered one to one. not only are phony spending cuts phony, they get smaller each time. >> keep moving the goal post. >>> grover, we have to leave it there. thank you. >> okay. >>> imagine every shipping port from massachusetts to texas shut down. nothing gets in or out. unions mobilizing to strike this weekend. if they don't get their way, will everyone pay? [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to see what harry reid cobbles together to try to get republican support in the senate and house. he's saying it's hard to see how this can get done by january 1st. so we're seeing a lot of managing of expectations and certainly a lot of posturing on both sides as it appears they're getting ready to play the blame game should we go over the cliff. listen to both sides. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the mem
john boehner and mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live now from washington. great to see you. house doesn't return to work until sunday. logistically speaking here, is there still enough time to work out a deal? >> i will tell you logistically speaking, logistically speaking, yes. politically speaking, very much unclear, there's a growing amount of pessimism about whether or not that can be done. we've been talking for days about how eyes are on the senate to...
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politico reports boehner told harry reid to go blank himself. part of the reason boehner is so testy is a fracture in his own party's leadership. republican leader eric cantor broke ranks with the speaker when the deal came up for a vote. boehner and house budget chairman paul ryan voted for the bill, while cantor and house whip kevin mccarthy voted against it. what does that tell you? president obama needs to move forward with plans to avoid the next fiscal crisis, the debt ceiling. he is not worried about engaging with a fractured gop. the president is going right back to you, the american people. the white house getting after it. put on their website, publishing the facts sheet. what this tax deal is all about. the details were shared on the president's massive e-mail list. the white house also released a video where the president explained his strategy of tax cuts and deficit reduction. >> so instead we're solving this problem in several steps. last year we started reducing the deficit through $1 trillion in spending cuts. and the agreement
politico reports boehner told harry reid to go blank himself. part of the reason boehner is so testy is a fracture in his own party's leadership. republican leader eric cantor broke ranks with the speaker when the deal came up for a vote. boehner and house budget chairman paul ryan voted for the bill, while cantor and house whip kevin mccarthy voted against it. what does that tell you? president obama needs to move forward with plans to avoid the next fiscal crisis, the debt ceiling. he is not...
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that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner wants to get something done. he is a deal maker. but he has 80, 90, 100 members in the caucus who refuse to take yes for an answer, as the president said. so i agreew on the overall issue of the debt. i think that's why the president put forward a plan on a grand bargain to get $4 trillion in deficit reduction, but that wouldn't have been able to pass the house. so, short term, mcconnell and reid, they are dealt makers. they have done this before. long term or over the next two, three, four week, it will be in john boehner's hands with the president doing a lot of prodding. >> i think that speaker boehner -- really it does depend on what happens in the september. but i think if they were discussing on the sunday show this is morning, if they're going to be 60% of republicans in the senate who vote for it, i absolutely think that speaker boehner is going to go along with this and so we can get this short-term deal done, put this to rest and move on to the bigg
that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner wants to get something done. he is a deal maker. but he has 80, 90, 100 members in the caucus who refuse to take yes for an answer, as the president said. so i agreew on the overall issue of the debt. i think that's why the president put forward a plan on a grand bargain to get $4 trillion in deficit reduction, but that wouldn't have been able to pass the house. so, short term, mcconnell and reid, they are dealt makers....
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next, breaking with boehner. a month ago, oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed compromising and going-over the fiscal cliff. what's he saying now? the minority report, we will get the view from the other side of the aisle with john yarmouth. a look ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching t"the daily rundown" on msnbc. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold?
next, breaking with boehner. a month ago, oklahoma congressman tom cole endorsed compromising and going-over the fiscal cliff. what's he saying now? the minority report, we will get the view from the other side of the aisle with john yarmouth. a look ahead at the president's schedule. you are watching t"the daily rundown" on msnbc. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries....
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speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker is in a very strong position. and besides, this is a very difficult job. i don't see many republicans standing up and wanting to take speaker boehner on. not many other people could do the job like speaker boehner is. >> i agree. i see you saying that. think about it, he didn't look good when plan b couldn't go to a vote. how can he be strong in this position? >> i think house republican see the position he's in. they're divorcing the fact -- divorcing the deal versus his leadership. he has presented an effective leadership style.
speaker boehner is extremely strong. his conferences support him and knows that he's been in a tough position trying to negotiate the fiscal deal with the president. he's been doing this for weeks, month, working on this deal. and you know, they gave it a shot. they tried their best. the house, you know, house republicans wouldn't go for it. and said, you know, it's up to the senate. and once -- if the senate passes something, the house now will consider it. so i -- i do think that the speaker...
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boehner tomorrow? >> yes. >> absolutely. i will vote for speaker boehner. i wanted a moment to look in the eyes and shake hands with the speaker and erick kanter. both of them shook my hand and gave me their word this vote will go forward as planned. and that they will be there for us. i want to emphasize the one thing that has been getting lost here. i have had discussions with speaker boehner for almost nine weeks now about the sandy disaster and the people in need. i never questioned where his heart was. he wants to help the people of new york and new jersey. delay the vote. i do not support it at all. i do not think it was the right call. i do not think he does not want to help. it was because of the timing issue. it was never because he does not want to help new york or new jersey. i want to make that clear. that was never in question. i disagree with the vote. i think we all did. we have to do the very next best thing, which is not waste any more time. we have that commitment. i stayed behind to make sure i personally got it. that is good enough for m
boehner tomorrow? >> yes. >> absolutely. i will vote for speaker boehner. i wanted a moment to look in the eyes and shake hands with the speaker and erick kanter. both of them shook my hand and gave me their word this vote will go forward as planned. and that they will be there for us. i want to emphasize the one thing that has been getting lost here. i have had discussions with speaker boehner for almost nine weeks now about the sandy disaster and the people in need. i never...
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it seemed by putting it on boehner to some degree it feels like harry reid is trying to use boehner to sort of get under mitch mcconnell's skin. do we think that's working? >> you know, really, karen, what you see is what you get here. we're in the am not, are too kind of stage of the school yard fight. seriously. we often see the two leaders square off like this on the floor of the senate. they just have a bigger audience this time and the stakes are exponentially higher than usual, but this is the kind of dysfunction that has led us to this point. what we are likely to see, as luke is reporting, the house come in. they can hardly stay out of town when the nation does go over the cliff. as seems increasingly likely at this point. and what we will undoubtedly see is a last minute flurry of activity, i'm going to go out on a limb, that will amount to a lot of approximates touring and covering of backsides to ensure the other side gets the maximum amount of blame. yes, there will likely be meetings and a flurry of phone calls, but the bottom line and luke has reported quite accurately, t
it seemed by putting it on boehner to some degree it feels like harry reid is trying to use boehner to sort of get under mitch mcconnell's skin. do we think that's working? >> you know, really, karen, what you see is what you get here. we're in the am not, are too kind of stage of the school yard fight. seriously. we often see the two leaders square off like this on the floor of the senate. they just have a bigger audience this time and the stakes are exponentially higher than usual, but...
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boehner's signature tears flowed and who can blame him? ever all, the man has just had the privilege of leading the most loathed and least productive congress in modern history. having accomplished almost nothing, the to-do list greeting the new congress includes gun control, immigration, the sequester, the debt limit, the farm bill, hurricane sandy relief, the filibuster, and the violence against women act, all items left unresolved by the last congress. but if there is much to do and much republican opposition to doing it, at least speaker boehner can take heart that expectations are firmly in the gutter. the columnist gail collins writes in today's "new york times," the bar is low since some people believe the departing 112th congress was the worst in history because of its stupendous lack of productivity and the favorability rating that once polled lower than the idea of a communist takeover of america. indeed, with expectations so low, at least there's no risk of anyone being disappointed. joining us now is nbc's luke russert live fro
boehner's signature tears flowed and who can blame him? ever all, the man has just had the privilege of leading the most loathed and least productive congress in modern history. having accomplished almost nothing, the to-do list greeting the new congress includes gun control, immigration, the sequester, the debt limit, the farm bill, hurricane sandy relief, the filibuster, and the violence against women act, all items left unresolved by the last congress. but if there is much to do and much...